Elon Musk and Valor Equity Partners CEO Antonio Gracias recently announced a shocking discovery made by DOGE: over 4.8 million “noncitizens” have been given Social Security numbers since President Biden entered office. Even more shocking was the discovery that “the defaults in the system, from Social Security to all of the benefit programs, have been set to max inclusion, max pay for these people — and minimum collection,” according to Gracias. And some of these noncitizens even registered to vote! So, how many were legal immigrants on work visas, and how many were illegal immigrants? Musk and Gracias noted that under Biden, applying for asylum became much easier and there was “no interview” required to obtain these Social Security numbers. Glenn and Stu discuss the story …
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GLENN: Okay. Let me get into the SSI thing.
Social Security insurance.
So Elon Musk and a friend of his, they were out in Wisconsin. Doing a -- doing a rally or a town hall.
And they were talking about how -- how they -- what they found on Social Security, is just horrible.
The government was giving away Social Security numbers. And it wasn't haphazard. It was planned. People were coming across the border.
And they were handing them a Social Security number.
And it was clear, I don't remember the numbers. But it's a very high number.
We are paying people who came here illegally. We're giving them Social Security.
When our -- when our old people can't afford to eat, we're just giving this away, to people who are here illegally.
That's crazy!
Crazy! So, you know, we don't survive as a nation. Without some accountability.
And without some common ground. And I don't know -- again, when did it become okay, to cheer or jeer. For somebody who is stopping corruption in our government.
When did it become okay? I mean, how did we get here? How did we get to the point to where people actually cheer the idea of our government, secretly, and denying it, if you ask them.
Giving them taxpayer funded benefits like Social Security, to millions of people, who are here illegally. And most people don't even blink now.
How did we forget? Forget politics.
Forget red team, blue team. Just let me say this. Let me ask your friend. Ask yourself this question.
If the people who you trusted the least were doing this, would you be okay with it?
That's to my son. Would you be okay with it? I would be fine, if you had an Elon Musk in there, doing this.
Would be totally fine, and exposing all of this.
Yep. It's not a gotcha. It's a principle. It's critical thinking. Would you be okay?
You know, critical thinking really needs to make a comeback. Because when we stop thinking critically. We start defending nonsense. Because our side is doing it.
And we lies something bigger than an argument. We lose trust. We lose connection. We lose the ability to have any kind of honest conversations with the people that we love.
So how do you talk to your friends and family, who just don't seem to see, what we see?
Well, it doesn't start with confrontation. It starts with curiosity. Which brings us to questions you can ask.
You ask them, can we just look at them, as if we didn't know who was in office?
Because then we can find our principles.
Would you still feel like this was okay?
What's the limiting principle here?
If this is allowed, for the government to deny that they're doing this, but give all of this money. All of these benefits to people who are here illegally, while denying they're doing it. And it's not within the bounds of the law!
If we can just do this now, is there any limiting principle? What can't we do?
What happens to a country when the law no longer means what it says? Don't accuse. I -- we just need to start inviting people to answer these questions. Show respect for their mommy. Because deep down, most people don't want to be hypocrites.
They don't.
And that's the conflict they're having in their head right now.
Okay. They want to be consistent.
They want to be fair. But sometimes they need a little help connecting the dots. What they'll say is, well, Trump did. Stop them right there. It's not about Trump. It's about policies and principles right now. Can we judge this on its own merits. The dishonest ones will end the conversation there, and they will want to just go back to the outrage machine. But you stay in reality, because we can't see our neighbors as enemies, just because they see the world differently.
But the first step to helping each other is ask honest questions.
Have the courage to listen to their answer. Not be thinking. Oh, good. They said that. Just listen. Even when it makes you really uncomfortable.
Because we have to find our way back to actual truth. We have to find our way back to logic. Because it's not political.
It's just about right and wrong.
And if we can't do this, then the fight isn't about left versus right anymore.
It honestly isn't even about good and evil.
It's about sane versus the insane.